36. Mondo Duplantis

The King is back!  Mondo joins us again to recap his incredible run this year.  Mondo set the new world record of 6.21 while claiming his first World Championship title.  He also topped 6 meters an astounding 22 times in 2022 (was that on purpose???).  Incredible athlete, incredible person, and yet another incredible episode with the  King of the pole vault  Mondo Duplantis.

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Transcript

Jake Winder (00:00:00):

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Jake Winder (00:02:10):

I think it was 22 times. Really insane. Yeah. So we had to break it down. He was gracious enough to give me some of his time and I'm so grateful for it. And we had a great conversation and we didn't have to go through the whole backstory because he is a repeat customer and we were able to just jump right in. And that's what's nice about having people on as repeat guests, is we don't have to go through that whole how did you grow up in the pole vault and all of those things, which is valuable and fun to listen to, I think. But it eats up a big chunk of time. And we were able to get to the nitty gritty real quick in this episode. And so, Mondo, if you're listening, thank you so much and I hope you guys all enjoy this podcast with the King. Anyway, we can just get this thing rolling, man. So what's going on? How, how's the fall training going? You guys started?

Mondo Duplantis (00:03:23):

It's good. It's good. Yeah. No, no, no. I, I've what am I on right now? I'm on week four, I think it is week four. Yeah. So I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm back in Louisiana right now, starting to train again. Yeah, so it it's been nice, honestly. I mean, it's, it's just like, you know, it's, it's, it's early, so I'm just sore everywhere and like, you know, the normal like beginning of fall training, but it's nice.

Jake Winder (00:03:46):

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's wild. We we're on week four of Luke's training. We just, we just started his about, about four weeks ago. And yeah, it's a, it's a very, like, the beginning is just like, it's, it's a kind of a rude awakening, but what is, what is like a, what does like fall training look like for you? Cause I know it looks a lot different for like, a bunch of different people.

Jake Winder (00:04:14):

A lot of vaulting. Running.

Mondo Duplantis (00:04:16):

No, I, I don't, I don't, I don't fault as much as I used to, honestly. Mm-Hmm. So like, vaulting, I, I jump like once a week

Jake Winder (00:04:24):

Really.

Mondo Duplantis (00:04:25):

And I mean, yeah, if, and yeah, I haven't, I haven't jumped twice a week in, probably like a year or so, year and a half maybe. I,

Jake Winder (00:04:34):

No, that's in off season though. Like, during competition, do you vault like competition season, do you just vault and meets then?

Mondo Duplantis (00:04:39):

Pretty much, yeah, because I usually have like, quite a, not a tight schedule, but like a close enough schedule where I'm jumping like pretty much every week or every week and a half or so. And I don't know, in between. I just feel like I, I think if I just do the right things as far as like, training and making sure that my body's prepared to handle the, the impact of what I'm about to do, then I feel like I'm all good. And as far as like the, the technique and timing of everything, it's like, I don't know, I, I, I think I just jumped so much in my life that like, I don't, I don't really like, I don't lose it as like, I don't really lose it as quickly anymore. It's more just like everything. Like, it's more just like the the run, especially since I'm running from 20 steps now. Like the, the rhythm of the run is the most important for me. But everything after like, the run, like when I plant the pole, like it just kind of just like riding a bike almost.

Jake Winder (00:05:32):

Yeah. I, I don't know like how much, you know, you've, if you've listened to any of these or anything, but that's like the one thing that I continually mention about you is just like, how, like much you still vault, just kind of like when you were younger, just like running like a bad outta hell and just, and just yeah. Lining it up. Just, you just are able to line it up like very, very well. And it's probably because, I mean, how many thousands, tens of thousands? Yeah, maybe hundreds of thousands of jumps have you had since you were like six years old, you know?

Mondo Duplantis (00:06:11):

Yeah, so many, so many. Like, I mean, I, I, I think I, looking back on like how I, how I grew up, I think I, I really realized how much I jumped because I remember one time when I was 12 years old, you know, they had the little League World series. Yeah. My oldest brother made the League World Series and it was my 12 year old summer. And I was on the all team and, and like my biggest dream was to go to Williamsport, like be on the espn, like be in the League World Series. So that whole month when we were like going through whatever it was, district then state, we ended up losing out in state. But I was like, I'm only gonna focus on baseball. And I've only played baseball. I didn't pull up for like a month. And that was like the craziest thing ever. Like a month I didn't pull up for when I was 12. So then I was like, yeah, I mean, cause I, cause I literally just pull up to like, maybe not every day, but I would say at least six times a week or so, right. Like, at least five, six times a week. So like, I, I remember I like, I remember that was like the craziest off period ever. And it was like one month literally when I was 12.

Jake Winder (00:07:11):

<Laugh>. That's crazy. I mean, but that's, that's why, that's probably, you know, why you, I mean, obviously one of the big reasons why you got so good is because, I mean, obviously pulling from a pretty good gene pool with your day <laugh>, that that one, that one probably helped, but at the same time, I mean, just tons and tons and tons and tons of vaults throughout your career, you know, like how many more do you have to take to be able to line it up? You know what I'm saying? Yeah,

Mondo Duplantis (00:07:39):

For sure.

Jake Winder (00:07:39):

It's like there's, there's no, there's no real mystery to it. Yeah. That's something that I've been kicking around with Luke's training too, is like, do we really need two days a week? Like, do we

Mondo Duplantis (00:07:52):

Yeah.

Jake Winder (00:07:52):

Like, come on. I mean, he's been vaulting for probably a similar number of years as you have. He probably, well, when did you start? Like, 6, 6, 7, 5.

Mondo Duplantis (00:08:02):

I mean, I, I was jumping like when I was four for real, like, like I was jumping. Yeah. Like I was trying to jump over a crossbar at four years old when I was five. I was like, for real jumping. I was making crossbars and stuff like that. But yeah.

Jake Winder (00:08:17):

Yeah. So he, he probably is, I mean, he probably started when he was like, not that young, maybe like 8, 9, 10. That's still pretty, still, that's pretty freaking young man. And then yeah, that is, I'm, I'm like, okay, so like how much, how much, you know, and when you guys, that's the thing that people don't understand is it's like, okay, Mondo, when you're coming down the runway as fast as you were when you were younger, like let's say even high school, like early high school, like you're hitting the back of the box hard, but you're not hitting it close to as hard as you're hitting it now. And then like the, the impact on your body, you know, when you're running as fast as you're running and hitting the poles that you're hitting, it's like, dude, you kinda gotta give yourself at least, you know, six, seven days to kind of bounce back and be ready

Mondo Duplantis (00:09:07):

Again. Yeah. And yeah, and, and that's the thing really, because like, especially now, I'm starting to like, use a lot stiff and stiffer poles and yeah. I just, I can't really jump all the time like that. And when, when I do jump, like, you know, like that, that once a week, the time that I do jump, it always is like a really intense, and I try to have like, really high intensity in my jumping. And so like whenever I, I do have my practice, I'm always trying to push pole from whatever run it may be, whether it's eight or 12 steps are whatever. I'm gonna try to be, you know, as big of, of a pole as I possibly can that practice. And they're usually gonna be, I mean at this point they're starting to get bigger and bigger and bigger, which is just more and more impact on my body. So yeah, it's kind of like, just naturally I just have to like cut it back a little bit.

Jake Winder (00:09:51):

Right, right, right. That's one thing I've been meaning to ask you is how is your body holding up just over the last three, four years?

Mondo Duplantis (00:09:58):

It's been good. It's been good. Really. I mean, like, I feel like it's just kinda like the normal pole vault stuff. You know, like I feel like my, my back's been pretty fine, honestly. Like, I mean, here and there you get like, a little bit like stiff and you get kind of like locked up in like, maybe my, my lower back. But other than that, like shoulders don't really have much of a problem with like my shoulders or anything. And for the most part, like whenever I'm like seeing like physio getting massages and stuff like that, like I mostly worry about my legs just like normal stuff, like a sprinter. You know, it is a little bit more impact on my takeoff foot. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, just cuz it's just like a lot of, a lot of impact I had to take off. But no, other than that it's like, it's mostly just my legs as far as like stuff that comes up. Like just like get a little tight in my hamstring or, you know, my, my hips sometimes get a little tight as well. But other than that, like like the little things then it's, it's pretty fine.

Jake Winder (00:10:52):

Yeah. And I think that that is probably like the, the question that, you know, people probably even ask is like, okay, Mandos, what are you like 22 now?

Mondo Duplantis (00:11:02):

Yeah. I just turned 23 2 days ago.

Jake Winder (00:11:07):

Two days ago. What was your birthday?

Mondo Duplantis (00:11:10):

The 10th? Is it the 12th today? I don't know. Maybe it's the 13th,

Jake Winder (00:11:13):

Bro. It's the 14th man.

Mondo Duplantis (00:11:15):

Oh my bad. Four days

Jake Winder (00:11:16):

Ago.

Mondo Duplantis (00:11:18):

<laugh>. Yeah. I I don't

Jake Winder (00:11:19):

Fly by baby. Yeah.

Mondo Duplantis (00:11:21):

Like in the, I don't keep track of the days at all. Really?

Jake Winder (00:11:25):

Oh, that's funny. Yeah, my, I was like, hold up cuz mine was two days ago. Mine was on the 12th.

Mondo Duplantis (00:11:29):

Happy birthday. Oh

Jake Winder (00:11:31):

Thanks man. You too. You too. Uyeah, so that's, I mean, that's probably, you know, I'm sure you probably maybe hear from time to time like, well how is he gonna keep his, you know, is he gonna, how's he gonna stay healthy? What's his longevity gonna be like? But it sounds like you're taking steps to mitigate those types of things, which is like not over jumping, you know, just realizing that, you know, during the competitive season there's probably not gonna be a whole lot of training in between your meet. Right?

Mondo Duplantis (00:12:02):

Yeah,

Mondo Duplantis (00:12:03):

Yeah. But I, I think that I, like, I have a little bit of a special luxury that not everybody else has also and I, that I'm very grateful for. And that is I don't have to over compete and I don't have to grind the way that some pub vaulters grind and it, it would probably be, if I was in, you know, other people's situation, then I would probably do the same thing. But you know, I, I pick my meets and I pick a good schedule where I have good rest time in between where I can still, I can still keep it, you know, a healthy like, base of training to where my body can just hold up for an entire season because I, I do an entire season from indoors to outdoors mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. And so yeah, I, I try to make sure my, my meets are, you know, reasonable places to get to, not too crazy travel at least. And you know, they're, they're well spread out so that I can, you know, get good recovery in between 'em so I don't have to like, do this grind where I have three meets in five days and stuff like that, that you see a lot of pollers doing. So i, I just don't have to do that really because I just have, yeah. I just <laugh>.

Jake Winder (00:13:07):

Yeah, that's, I mean, that's what it is. That's the benefit of being in the position that you're in. You don't have to go nuts <laugh>, you know?

Mondo Duplantis (00:13:16):

No, yeah, no, no, exactly. And so I, I'm, I'm pretty grateful for that cuz like, you know, my, I like, you know, talking to my dad and stuff like that and just like hearing what he used to do back in the day, how much he used to grind, just like meet after meet after meet where they go, they have four meets in one week. You know, like I, I'm never gonna do anything like that if I have two meets in one week. I think that's like super crazy, super crazy. And there's people that do that all the time. So I, I really like, I'm not really in a position to complain.

Jake Winder (00:13:43):

Yeah, for sure. I thought I saw that you have a training partner this year. Is that true? Somebody, I thought I saw

Mondo Duplantis (00:13:51):

That you have a

Jake Winder (00:13:52):

Training partner,

Mondo Duplantis (00:13:55):

Kind of, kind of you know Ben Bros. Yeah. From Belgium. Yeah. Yeah, he Belgium recorder order, he, yeah, he's here right now with me actually. And he's in Louisiana right now. He's gonna be here for the next like three weeks or so. And so it's not gonna be like full time. He is not gonna stay with me in Sweden and stuff like that. And he's not gonna always be here, but I guess like in the fall, maybe he's gonna spend some more time here, like in Louisiana just kind of staying, hanging out with me, training with me. But yeah, so that's like, yeah, like a part-time trainer partner.

Jake Winder (00:14:27):

So how is that like because you probably done the majority of your career kind of. I don't, I could be wrong. Solo,

Mondo Duplantis (00:14:35):

Everything. Yeah. I, I I never, I never had a trained partner ever really. And

Jake Winder (00:14:41):

Having one now. Yeah.

Mondo Duplantis (00:14:43):

It's cool. No, it's cool. Like, I, I, I enjoy it honestly. You know, and like, it, it's, it's nice that he's here and like his schedule is kind of just like, whatever my schedule is or like, we kind of the both the same schedule because we're just, we're just training basically at this point. So we can, you know, there's, there's no like, things that we have to work around each other, which would, that would be something that would aggravate me to where like, if he can only train at this time or this time or this time, but we can do it whenever we want. So

Jake Winder (00:15:13):

That

Mondo Duplantis (00:15:14):

Is nice. It's been, it's been really nice and like, you know, you kinda, I think there's a different level of like, of quality and intensity in the workouts cuz you can just kind of feel yourself just like naturally just pushing yourself just a little bit harder when somebody's with you. And so no, it's, it's been good. And we, it's been like, you can tell like the quality has just kind of risen a little bit.

Jake Winder (00:15:36):

Do you think that that there's that potentially a competitive guy like yourself that that potentially could like, maybe be a negative thing where you, you're like, oh man, this dude's not beating me in this, you know what I'm saying? And then maybe you push it too hard. The one More Jump podcast does take a lot of time and energy and money to continue to produce. If you would like to support the podcast, it would be greatly appreciated. And you can do so by purchasing your polls through Rise Pole Vault. If you wanted to do that, you could email in to support rise pole vault.com and we'll get you all taken care of. And then you can always support the podcast by purchasing stuff off of our online store, which is@risepolevault.com. Thank you guys so much.

Mondo Duplantis (00:16:26):

Yes and no, I mean, like, there, there definitely is like that there could be that situation, you know, like if you're like, I don't think he's like as uber competitive as somebody like Reno or somebody like that. Maybe that would be like somebody tough to train or at least Is

Jake Winder (00:16:41):

He crazy competitive Reno? Yeah,

Mondo Duplantis (00:16:44):

He's pretty, yeah, he's pretty crazy. He's crazy. He's, he's crazier than me, I would say. Like, not even, I don't even know if it's necessarily that I'm, that he's so competitive, just that like his jumping is just crazy. Like his schedule, like when he jumps, he just jumps so dang much. Right. And he just like, he never, he never wants to stop. Yeah. As far, like, when I jumped with him, at least had a few sessions with him in 20 18, 20 19 and he just like, you know, it just takes so many jumps. And then after he wants to do this game where like, we'll see how high we can jump with like a four meter pull and stuff like that. And of course he's just gonna, he just like kills me in those two. So like, when he is beating me, then he definitely wants to just do that all day too, so. Right. But like, stuff like that, like he just never wants to stop jumping orno

Jake Winder (00:17:22):

Ever. When you say he jumps a lot, what, what is that, what is that? Is that 20 jumps? Is that

Mondo Duplantis (00:17:29):

Oh, at least, at least 20 jumps. Like 25 type stuff. 25 30. I don't know if, I don't think he does that anymore as much, but like when I was there a few years ago then it was, it was definitely that kind of thing. Like I wouldn't be surprised if it got close to 35 if you add everything in. Like with the warmup, I mean with the short run jumps and then like, getting further and further back.

Jake Winder (00:17:51):

Right, right, right. Yeah. That's crazy. So you were, you were about to go on something about training in high school about how maybe, you know, training solo. How, how has that been? Cause I know, I know my brother Luke is just by himself and he actually loves it. Like, he loves the peace and just kinda, he connects kind of with himself and, and I don't know, he, he always says he loves it. Is that, was that, has that been a similar thing for you or?

Mondo Duplantis (00:18:19):

Yeah, it, it, it has been honestly. And, and I think I, like, I still do enjoy training on my own and the majority of my training will be on my own is just be like me and my mom there. Which I mean, I guess is like technically on my own cause I'm the only one working out. But mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, no, I mean I, I really do like it. It's always been like that for me and I got super used to it and I, I, you know, if I, if I didn't like it then I would've changed something and I haven't changed anything. So yeah, I mean, been being here, it's, it's great to have me, but it is, it is more of a part-time thing cuz we're not, our schedules are different. We're gonna jump at different meets and he lives in a different country than me. So it, it, it won't be always like this, but it's, it's cool to have him here like for the, for the time.

Jake Winder (00:19:01):

Right, right, right. Yeah, for sure. It breaks it up, it breaks up the monotony maybe a little bit and adds a little spice to everything. And I've always thought about maybe trying to see if there's somebody that would want to train with Luke, but then I just go back and forth cause I'm like, oh man. Like it's kind of a risk. You, I'm assuming you know Ben, you know, pretty well and knew that the risk was not going to be very high, bringing him in and, and things like that. But yeah, I don't know. I go back and forth with it. But, so your fall training, just really quick, back to what you were talking about. So your fall training generally consists of, you said like vaulting once a week and then I'm assuming there might be sprinting and

Mondo Duplantis (00:19:44):

Yeah, a lot of, a lot of sprinting, a lot of running. I think I'm sprinting four times a week

Jake Winder (00:19:51):

Wholly

Mondo Duplantis (00:19:51):

And then

Jake Winder (00:19:52):

Cow.

Mondo Duplantis (00:19:53):

Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah.

Jake Winder (00:19:55):

That's a lot to

Mondo Duplantis (00:19:56):

It. Yeah, no, it's,

Jake Winder (00:19:59):

Yeah. What do you, what do you do? Like what are your intervals? Like

Mondo Duplantis (00:20:03):

How

Jake Winder (00:20:03):

Long, how long if you don't wanna share? You don't

Mondo Duplantis (00:20:05):

Have to. No, I don't know about how long. Like I have a day where usually Friday do one 50 s mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, I have like another sprint day where it's kind of like this, like you know, it's sleds block starts some in and outs and then like finish what, one or 2, 1 50 s depending on the week and intensity of it. Have some like 60 sixties on the minute or sixties every 45 seconds. It's like 2, 2, 2 times four of it. Yeah. It's like so it'll be like eight of 'em in total.

Jake Winder (00:20:44):

Eight sixties on the, on the minute. Minute,

Mondo Duplantis (00:20:48):

Yeah. Or 45 seconds. But it's, it's but it's chopped up in a, it's chopped up into two sets. So it's four and then four.

Jake Winder (00:20:57):

Four

Mondo Duplantis (00:20:57):

And then four. And then in between, in between I'll have like a three minute break.

Jake Winder (00:21:01):

Yeah. But still that is, that, that's pretty tough, right?

Mondo Duplantis (00:21:05):

It gets tough towards the end. Yeah. Yeah. But it doesn't, it doesn't, I don't know. I, I think I'm more tired after one 50 s honestly. I feel like, cause I, cause I I get after 'em so hard.

Jake Winder (00:21:16):

Yeah.

Mondo Duplantis (00:21:17):

Yeah. And so like, cuz like, yeah. And then, so I feel like I'm a little bit more gas after that. I feel like the sixties almost not long enough to really kill me, but I, I mean, towards the end I'll probably like have some nice select acid in my legs and it'll start to get a little tougher, like in the beginning to like really push and be like quick out the, from the beginning.

Jake Winder (00:21:37):

Interesting. Yeah. You, you said at the last podcast that we did that you really enjoyed one 50 s that's a mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, that was one of our podcasts was supposed to start yeah. <Laugh>. Anyway. so this time last year, if you could think back to then what, like, did you know that you were gonna jump six meters 22 times and break the world record however many times you broke it and break it at the fricking world championships? Like a

Mondo Duplantis (00:22:08):

G Yeah. Yeah. <laugh>, I mean, kind of, I guess like, I mean, I, I wouldn't say that like my fall training was like so unbelievably exceptional compared to to like the other years that like, there was no way I wouldn't just go absolutely crazy this year. It wasn't really like that necessarily because like, I feel like it was just like a pretty normal fall in the beginning. I actually, like, I remember there was a little bit of a period of time where like I had a little problem with my foot and I couldn't really do like the bounding and p that I like to do mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, and I was a little bit worried about that, but it ended up being okay. That was more only for like a month. And it wasn't like stopping me from working out, but it was more just like I, I would've, I wanted to emphasize like trics and like that kind of stuff a little bit more than I was able to. And, but it ended up being okay. So no, honestly, like, not the, like the fall didn't really, it didn't really indicate I didn't do anything like too crazy in the fall. I mean, I was in good shape, of course going to the indoor season had a, a great indoor season also. But no, it was more just like, you know, just, just got myself like in the, into some good shape than kind of just up to me when it comes to like game time.

Jake Winder (00:23:23):

Right, right. Yeah. That's that's always interesting because like sometimes I know that, have you ever had times in the fall where you've been like, dude, I'm about to pop off this season and then you realize that it still is a long time to get to the season?

Mondo Duplantis (00:23:42):

Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like, not kind of, not really, honestly. I feel like, like the, the way it is built up is like, I mean, I'm the end indoor season's, like it's gonna start in three months or so for me. Right. And I probably need like, most of that three months as far as like right now I'm not in like terrible shape, but I'm not in like competition shape. I would say you probably still go go out there and jump. Okay. But I'm not, I wouldn't break the record at this particular second. So it's gonna be like, it's, it'll be like a needed, a needed three months for me to try to work everything out because then when the season starts, it's hard to like, you know, keep that a good like rhythm in the train and everything that other than like in between the the seasons of indoor and outdoor. But right. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't think it's like I, I've been pretty good with like, it's not like I get in like too good of shape too early and I'm scared I'm gonna lose it. It's not, no, it's not really like that because I try to do like, you know, a tough, a tough pace and then, yeah.

Jake Winder (00:24:46):

So do you relatively, like whenever you're setting up where your mom's setting up, because your mom still is your main, she's writing your training and then your dad's kinda in with your vaulting and stuff like that. Is that still Yeah.

Mondo Duplantis (00:25:00):

Kinda

Jake Winder (00:25:00):

How it goes? Yeah, exactly. So when your mom's writing these up, is she trying to, like is she trying to hit different peaks throughout the season or is she just kind of trying to build up to just a, a level and then kind of maintain a level throughout the whole season? Does that make any sense?

Mondo Duplantis (00:25:23):

Yeah, no, I, I would say it's, it would probably probably be a little bit more of like maintaining like a build up and then you kinda just have to maintain it because you know, I, I can, I can get into, as, you know, you can get into great shape and you can be really fast, you be really strong, but at the end of the day, you have to be really on point where you're jumping and you gotta be really technically sound like, and for me it's not more like I don't add jump sessions in. I just, I just need some competitions and I need to get used to gripping that high. I need to get used to those kind of poles. I need to get used to 20 steps. And so usually that's why it takes you know, a few meets before I really start like finding like the, the groove of everything.

Mondo Duplantis (00:26:09):

So no, it, it's kind of more like a, a a nice base where I'm building it up and I'm like, yeah, it's, it's kind of more like a, a build up a nice base before the season starts and then you just try to like maintain it as best as you can. And I try to have a good enough schedule where I can work out a little bit in between meets and like, you know, have good enough travel where I can find good recovery to, but it's not like the training is built up at this like special peak at the world championships, really. It's more just like I build up my competitions to where I want my best, like my best feeling on the runway to be at the most important meet.

Jake Winder (00:26:48):

Okay. So that brings me in my next That makes sense thing. That makes total sense. That's what I like. It's really weird because like I, everybody watches your career and they just have assumptions that they create in their own heads. You know, some of 'em could be completely right and some of them could be totally, totally off. So that was one of the assumptions that I kind of made is that it looks like you get to a level of fitness and then you're just there. And a goal is just to maintain that level of fitness because like how, like why if we know that you can smoke the world record, like I'm sure this is your mom's thinging to herself. Like if we know that you can smoke the world record, like why are we trying to push harder? You know what I'm saying? Like, let's push and push and push and push.

Jake Winder (00:27:36):

It's like, dude, like we like you already, you already know what's going on, man. Like, you already know <laugh>, you know, you've seen the videos and you've seen the videos. It's not like you're banging over these bars, you know, like you're putting some distance between you and the bar. So that brings me to my next thing, which is when you're going up to a world championship like that, so like you and I saw each other in the warmup tent and say, what's up? And then you were getting worked on by your phy by one a physio. I don't know if it's your physio, but and you know, super chill, just relaxed, hanging out. Do you know what's about to go down? Let's just say that you like, as long as the weather is okay, do you know that what's about to happen in a couple days?

Mondo Duplantis (00:28:35):

Yeah, kind of honestly like, yeah, you kind of know. I mean, I knew that I was like in, in really good shape and I, yeah, like I knew that I had a really good chance to jump something high because, you know, like it's a, it's a good place, good setup. It's the world champ chips. And so like, you know, just like, just mentally that's where my peak is at. And that's like, that's where all like emotionally that I just like, I wanna let everything out on this, on this track. And I knew that I was gonna do that. So yeah, like I, I had a pretty good feeling going into it.

Jake Winder (00:29:07):

And then how do you know, like, are there actual data points, like actual, like workouts leading up that like, are letting you know that? Or do you just, is it just a feeling like I just feel like I am going to put it down today? Or a combination?

Mondo Duplantis (00:29:25):

Yeah, I mean I'm do doing some like, like flying thirties and stuff like that and like, I mean, you could look at stuff like that. Like when I'm, when I'm running and sprinting, like if I'm sprinting really fast and I'm doing tric, I'm doing hurdle ops and I'm just like, I'm really light on my feet. I'm just like bouncing off ground easily. It's like, you know, as far as like physically it's, it was there. Right? So then it's kind of just like up to me as far as like I gotta be mentally ready to like, you know, grab a super big stick and be able to like hit a, hit a good run at the right time.

Jake Winder (00:29:55):

Right, right. And, and so the way, the reason that I'm kind of asking you about this is because whenever I saw you in the warmup tent, I was like, dude, he seems too, like, just totally chilled out. And I was like, that's really wild because like there's a different, there's like a different pressure that normal people feel. Maybe you don't feel this that like one would feel whenever, you know, if you're the underdog, like you could win the world championships. Yeah. Like if you could win it, like that's one pressure. But if it's like 100%, you definitely should win the world championships. <Laugh>. So

Mondo Duplantis (00:30:43):

<Laugh>. Yeah,

Jake Winder (00:30:44):

It's like a different pressure man. How do you deal with that? How do you stay so relaxed?

Mondo Duplantis (00:30:49):

It felt like the, like I think that's the best that I've ever handled. The pressure would be this passport championships and, and I don't even really know how to explain it, like how I did it. I just like, I just felt really good going into it. Like I didn't really lose much sleep over it day before the meet and everything like that. Like, I slept well. Like I wasn't like, you know, just keeping myself up all night, just like thinking about what's about to happen and like all this, like nerves and stuff like that. I don't know why I felt so chill. I just, I just felt really chill. I think that, like, I think I had a really good situation also where I went to Louisiana before the world champs and just like seeing my family, childhood friends, guys that I grew up with.

Mondo Duplantis (00:31:34):

And this is like, you know, this is two weeks before, a week and a half before. And just like, I put myself in that environment where like, I was just at home and I was like, you know, I had trying to get some training done and trying to like make sure I just stay in like, you know, the, the good shape that I was in. But it's like, I don't know, like, not like taking it less serious, but I mean, of course cuz I'm gonna take it like as serious as I possibly can. And I was like trying to do the right things, eat the right things, not like just stay in good shape. But it was like, it's trying to like keep it simple like it's just pole vault and I'm just jumping against the exact same guys that I've been jumping against the entire year, entire few year, past few years.

Mondo Duplantis (00:32:15):

And it's like, I'm just doing the same thing that I've been doing. Really. Like, I'm just gonna go out there and I'm just gonna jump and like, I can only control myself and I can only do what I'm about to do. It's not like soccer or anything like that, like where I have to like judge what somebody else is doing based on like, I have to judge my move based on somebody else's move. It's like, I'm gonna go there and I'm just gonna jump as high as I can and if that's enough then that's enough. And like that's the only thing that I can control is like me against that bar, whatever bar that may be. So I, yeah, I just had like a pretty like, peaceful mindset as far as like just that. And I knew that like yeah, of course I knew like in the back of mind, like, if I jump well then I should be on top and I should, I should win. And I was in a pretty good rhythm of like making six meters basically every, every day at that point. So just like, I don't really have to make things too complicated, especially when I'm jumping well, I'm just like, just going to the meet and like, you know, I get three attempts at every bar, try not to waste any of 'em and you know, I should be, I should be jumping over six meters.

Jake Winder (00:33:20):

Yeah. So you're able to just kind of disconnect from the hype a little bit and just be able to just be Yeah. Kind of present with who you are and, and what you're doing. That's that's a pretty hard thing to do. That's doesn't come easy at times, I bet. No,

Mondo Duplantis (00:33:39):

No, I know. I know. And, and I, I wish that I could like, explain it better for like to, to help people because, and I don't know if I really, I really can because like I, I've, I've been the same ways where like there's been periods of time where like I just couldn't sleep before meets. Cuz you're just so, like, not even necessarily that you're so nervous, you're just so anxious and fired up about it that you just like, you know, can't really sleep, you just keep yourself up all night. But I don't know this, this past year I just, it just felt like I didn't really have that problem really. And I, and I think like a lot of the, a big part of that is like, of course I had, I hadn't won world championships going through this year, which was super huge for me just to kind of like complete the whole set of everything.

Mondo Duplantis (00:34:23):

Yeah. So that was like, that's super cool. And you know, that's, yeah. That's, that's super sick, honestly. But I, I think it was just like the past two years I've just like, I don't know, I've just like, I've, I've done a lot as far as like competitions and I've had a lot of great results, a lot of done a lot of great things to where it was like, I, I wanna like, I don't, I wanna jump really high for myself, but I feel like I don't have to really prove anything to anybody else. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. So I think that's kind of also why it was just so easy to feel like really comfortable at all the competitions this past year. Cause it was kind of like, I know, I know what, what I am and I know what I'm capable of and I'm just gonna, I'm doing this, like doing this for me, if that makes sense.

Jake Winder (00:35:11):

Yeah. It's, it seems like, and don't take this the wrong way. This is, and this might be the wrong way to say it, because what you're trying to explain is really hard to explain. It's almost like you, cause I remember whenever I was in a groove, if I'm in a groove with anything in my life, it feels like I, this is gonna be totally taken the wrong way. No, no. Like I don't, I I don't care, but I care. Yeah. Kinda like, it's just like, of course like, it's just like, eh, you know, I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna have a good time. I'm gonna, I'm gonna really try my best. I'm in good shape. I know that, you know, and it is what it is. It's gonna happen if it happens. If it doesn't, I'm gonna wake up the next day and I'm gonna move on regardless. Yeah. And I think that anybody who's in that zone of just like really high level competition, I think that they probably can relate to that feeling of like, I, I, I'm okay with whatever happens and like, you're just so much more relaxed whenever you feel like that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I'm hard time explaining it too.

Mondo Duplantis (00:36:33):

Yeah. And I think like, yeah, it's, it's a little bit of that in a and it's a lot of also like, just having like a lot of trust in my abilities and like going, going to the competition, I didn't really have much like doubts and fears of what's gonna happen. And so I'm, I was going into the, the competition very confident and very just like, I don't have to do anything like, out of my body or like out of the ordinary, just kind of like do what I normally do and like that's gonna be, that's gonna be good enough so I don't even have to like, didn't really have to worry about it.

Jake Winder (00:37:07):

Yeah. It's not like you had to just jump outta your mind in order to be able to, you know, make it all line up. But yeah. So during your warm up too, that was the like, first thing that struck me about your performance at the world championships is I was like, dude, that dude is relaxed in that tent. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, like, he's just chilling in the 10 <laugh> and then, and then at your warmup, you know, I'm, I'm coaching Luke and, and then like, I'd watch your warmups at the same time. And I was like, so you like, and I probably maybe missed some of 'em, but it was like, you took like one straight pole thing and then then took a bent pole from like, I don't know, six or something like that wasn't even that good of no offense, wasn't even that good of a jump. And then, then you could just grab your long pole head back to long, just like do some like, blow through thing over the bar from full and then you put your poles away. I was like, hold up. That's it. He's done.

Jake Winder (00:38:08):

You didn't even have a good jump. I was like, what the heck is going on, man? And then you go and you just, and you put it down man, and then, and then you put it down. And that is really insane. So like, when you come down the runway on your first, you know, trip down the runway from full and it's not that good of a jump, you didn't line it up and then you put your pole in your bag, like mm-hmm. <Affirmative> what's going through your head during that. Like, it wasn't that bit of a jump, you know?

Mondo Duplantis (00:38:41):

Yeah. But like yeah, I guess I can kind of just like walk you through a little bit of like how the warmups usually look for me. Yeah. And, and they're kind of like the way you say it. Like, I go and I usually just do like one little, like, you know, like one-handed like straight pole jump. Not even a jump. It's kind of more just like a, you know, a plant. Yeah. And just like, basically just trying to like feel the box and loosen up the shoulders and everything a little bit. And then I go from I'll take one jump from six steps and it's just six steps to, it's and I'm just like on like this, like 4 45 pull and I just like take a jump and it's more just the like, yeah. Feel the body again mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. Yeah. And then from there I go straight to 20 steps and I I grab a super small pole, like for me at least, I, I grab a super small pole and from there I just, I'm just basically trying to like, feel the run out and try to feel the runway.

Mondo Duplantis (00:39:32):

And if I, yeah, u usually I take two jumps though. The warmups, usually I'll take two, some, sometimes it'll be one, it just, depending on what pole I take my first plan on in the warmups, then I'll usually use like one really small pole and I'll just because I, because I wanna make sure I take off the ground on the first jump also, right. Because I feel like you're not, you're not able to get as much information if you don't. And so I'll probably have my run like a, a little bit further in than it's gonna be in the competition. And yeah, I'll go up there, take a jump, feel the run field, see where everything was at, and the poll's gonna, yeah, the poll's gonna move through. I'm not even gonna take a real jump honestly on this poll. Right.

Mondo Duplantis (00:40:15):

And then yeah, if I, yeah, if I want to, then maybe I'll just go to like a little bit more of a reasonable pull in the sense of like something that's a little bit more of what I'm gonna use in the actual competition. And then I'll just plant that too. I don't even really have to take like a good jump or like, I don't really worry about anything that happens after the plant. I'm just only focused on the run plant because I know that if I have that down then everything else is gonna click with it. So yeah. I ju I just, I just feel the run basically. And like I can, I can kind of feel when I plan, I'm just trying to judge what poll is gonna be right for the first jump, basically to where I can like kind of feel like on how the poll's moving. If it's just, you know, moving crazy, then maybe I'll start on one bigger poll than I usually do. Or, you know, if it didn't feel that great, then maybe, you know, whatever, whatever poll it may be. Like, just trying to kind of judge that. So yeah, no, I, I'm not, I don't go crazy in warmups. Yeah. Really.

Jake Winder (00:41:11):

Yeah, that was, that was pretty impressive. And I mean, you save a lot of time and to be fair what I was describing was the prelim. So the prelim you probably weren't as you know, or nervous about or whatever. And yeah. You only took one from full. But yeah, I found that very, very fascinating. Cuz there's a lot of pole vaulters out there that are like, dude, if it's not perfectly dialed

Mondo Duplantis (00:41:34):

Yeah.

Jake Winder (00:41:34):

At the end of my warmup, then I'm gonna suck.

Mondo Duplantis (00:41:38):

Yeah, yeah. I mean, no, for sure. I mean, I see like a lot of people take so many warmup jumps and, and I think that's a mentally thing. I think that's, that's probably a few reasons for that. It's probably cuz like, you know, the jumper itself maybe just wants to find confidence in their own jump and they wanna, they wanna feel things and they wanna make sure in their head that they think everything's ready to go. Which I don't really need to do cuz I just need to like, I feel like feel the runway a little bit and then just warm up my body. And then like when I'm warm and I'm ready to sprint and ready to really roll down the runway, then I'm just ready to jump. I'm just trying to get like a radar and a range of like what polo used.

Mondo Duplantis (00:42:16):

But and I think it's a lot like also the, the coach, some coaches like that too. Cause I mean, you, like, I think some coaches, if it wasn't my father and it wasn't somebody that's so confident in me and so like in tune with the way I jumped way I warm up to where like, you know, yeah. Like, I mean, like you said, like I go and like they'll have a bungee at five 50 and I, I go and like, I crash the bungee at five 50 because I'm on this super small pole and like I can barely get over the five 50 bungee. And then I, you know, tell my dad, we're gonna start, I wanna start at five 70. Like, not every coach is gonna really go for that if they didn't understand like, the way that I am and the way that I, I jump within the warmups. So yeah, I, I think it's a lot of things, but I do think for the most part people waste a lot of energy warming up

Jake Winder (00:43:05):

<Laugh>. Well that was a really good point that you brought up. That you're coming in with the confidence. You're not developing the confidence in your warmup. It's already there. You already have it, you know, and then, you know, your warm ups, just your warmup, like literally what you're describing right now is actually using a warmup to warm up.

Mondo Duplantis (00:43:31):

Yeah, exactly.

Jake Winder (00:43:32):

Not, not to be like, okay, I'm gonna find my confidence and I'm gonna find out my warmup if I'm gonna have a good day or a bad day.

Mondo Duplantis (00:43:40):

Yeah. And, and I mean, and I, and I think that also comes from just years of like, I've, I've jumped well in every, in every single way. Whether it's a really, really crappy warmup or it's a really great warmup, really average warmup. And like, so like I know that the world can indicate a few things, but it, it doesn't indicate, you know, exactly how the day is gonna go. Cause you know, it's, it's not until the bar the bar's up there to where the, the real match starts. So you know, I try not to like, to stress about it. And, and in either way,

Jake Winder (00:44:13):

Yeah, we always whenever my dad always used to tell us like, Hey, I don't want you to be the dude who wins the warmup. Okay.

Mondo Duplantis (00:44:21):

<Laugh>. Yeah. When, yeah, for sure. There's, there's always that guy

Jake Winder (00:44:25):

<Laugh> that dude smokes over something really high and then they know height <laugh>. It's like,

Mondo Duplantis (00:44:31):

Oh, I know. That's, yeah. That's a crazy thing. That's a crazy thing phenomenon. Yeah, that's, that's, I don't understand it really. <Laugh>.

Jake Winder (00:44:40):

So you're talking about your dad. So I was talking with your dad at the World Championships and he had mentioned that you went through a little p fiasco coming into the world championships with your flying, flying 'em or something like that.

Mondo Duplantis (00:44:56):

Oh, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, we just had like a regular united flight and it was gonna go from like New Orleans, Denver, Denver, Eugene, I think directly. And then yeah, we, we show, we show up to the airport in the United, like people were just like, no, we're not taking polls. We, we just, they just made a new rule like maybe like two or three days before that they weren't gonna take polls anymore on these spec specific planes. I think now they just bann them completely. But it was like on these specific planes. And one of the planes I think from Denver to Eugene, that was a plane that they're like, they were prohibiting pull up polls from going on. So we're like. And then we, I mean we tried our best and we tried to convince 'em as much as we could, but there was like, there was literally just nothing we could do.

Mondo Duplantis (00:45:42):

So we, we got saved honestly, quite a bit. We only, it was only like a few hours delay and then we were able to like go to Southwest and they had like a very similar transit that was just like from New Orleans to like, Vegas, Vegas to Eugene. So it ended up working out quite right. But it was just like a few hours there part of just kinda like chaos in the sense of like, we were just trying to find a flight to take our polls. Really. But that's just like, that's common thing. I feel like being a pole vault.

Jake Winder (00:46:09):

Well I was talking with your dad and he was like, first of all, he was not a happy with that. He was not happy. No, he wasn't happy.

Mondo Duplantis (00:46:18):

No, he was, he was less, he was less, he was less happy than me. Than than me For sure. That's usually how it's though. That kinda makes me almost more calm.

Jake Winder (00:46:25):

Yeah. Yeah. So he was saying that like, there's like hardly any airlines now that'll take polls overseas, like Delta's done.

Mondo Duplantis (00:46:39):

Yep. I guess it's done now too. I, I don't really, I actually, unless I'm missing an airline, I don't really know how American jumpers are gonna bring their polls to Europe because I have, I have a few sets in Europe of course cause I have my sets in Sweden.

Jake Winder (00:46:57):

Right.

Mondo Duplantis (00:46:58):

And so for me it's not really a problem cuz I don't fly, when I go back to Sweden, I don't fly with polls cause I already have my polls there and I have like, I, you know, replica sets. But I, I'm, I'm not sure I might be missing one, but from Yeah, my understanding, I don't think I can, I I can't think of any that take polls right now as far as like getting to Europe.

Jake Winder (00:47:19):

Yeah. My brother went to to Sweden and Finland last summer.

Mondo Duplantis (00:47:26):

Yeah. He jumped in Sweden. Yeah.

Jake Winder (00:47:27):

And yeah, and he went Iceland Air and they literally save vaulting poles on, on the website. So anybody out there that wants to go vault in Europe, either you gotta be a baller and have a extra set in Europe or, or you gotta fly Iceland Air Man. And I hear that Iceland Air does like a free stay if you stay over there

Mondo Duplantis (00:47:53):

Like in like Ray and like Ray <laugh>.

Jake Winder (00:47:56):

I dunno,

Mondo Duplantis (00:47:57):

I dunno. I might have that wrong. That might actually not be the city in, but I think it is.

Jake Winder (00:48:01):

Yeah, I think it is. They were like, they were like, yeah, if you stay here we'll put you up for a week. All you gotta do is buy food and drink. Only problem is, is that, you know, a, a bottle of alcohol there is like $300. Sorry,

Mondo Duplantis (00:48:17):

That's the, that's the same, that's the same with Sweden.

Jake Winder (00:48:20):

Is it really crazy?

Mondo Duplantis (00:48:21):

Yeah, well they have like super, like super strict regulations on and like, only the, it is a government run store called System Below and it that's the only place you can buy alcohol

Jake Winder (00:48:32):

Really?

Mondo Duplantis (00:48:32):

And it's like, yeah. And it's super expensive cause they just like high taxes on it.

Jake Winder (00:48:36):

Dang. Yeah, yeah,

Mondo Duplantis (00:48:38):

Yeah.

Jake Winder (00:48:39):

Whatever. Not in the us. But <laugh> so one of the hallmarks that I also, I was talking with your dad on our podcast. One of the hallmarks that you have is your ability to move to polls that you have never jumped on before and just send it first go. Yeah. Is that true? He was telling me that you

Mondo Duplantis (00:49:03):

Yeah, I guess. I mean, I feel like I do it quite a bit. So

Jake Winder (00:49:07):

How many World Records has it has been, have been set, like in that fashion where you just, it was like, Hey, I got a brand new pole here. I've never jumped on it, I gotta get on it.

Mondo Duplantis (00:49:17):

All of them <laugh> basically. Really? No. yeah, I mean 6, 6 20 2021 really wasn't, I guess technically it was a new poll, but it was the same flex number. It was just like that version of the poll. I jumped six 20 on, but I got a new one in United States, so I just had to tape it up. So it's not, wasn't really a new poll, it just like looked new. But yeah, 6 26 18 for sure. Six 18. That was the, the first time I even planted that pole. And I just like, it was, yeah, it was a 12 one and I just planted it and ended up like, kind of cool in 6 18 2, like probably one of my better jumps ever. And then six 17 also, that was a, that was a new poll. So yeah. Base most of them. Really.

Jake Winder (00:50:09):

That's crazy. What, what did you jump the new world record on Ed and

Mondo Duplantis (00:50:14):

Eugene. That was in that was seven. And so five 15 ish maybe

Jake Winder (00:50:30):

Five

Mondo Duplantis (00:50:30):

15. Yeah. Something, something around there that's up there. Yeah, yeah. Something

Jake Winder (00:50:36):

Like that. Is that, so that was the first time you jumped on that pole?

Mondo Duplantis (00:50:39):

It was the first time I jumped on that pole, but I, I, I jumped six 20 indoors and broken at the word indoor championships. That was on 11 seven. Also. It was just like my Swedish set 11 seven, and then I got an 11 seven made for the word championships and in United States, because, you know, I have two different sets, so it was like technically the first time, but it's not, it's like I, I have enough trust in ucs and stuff that like the progression is gonna be right and that the polls are gonna be the same. So

Jake Winder (00:51:09):

Obviously Yeah. <Laugh> obviously you do. That's crazy because that's very, that's very abnormal for somebody to just be like, yeah, I totally trust it and then hit it and go.

Mondo Duplantis (00:51:25):

Yeah. But there's, I mean, there's nothing else really for me to do though. It's like I, I'm never gonna use these polls in practice. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. Cause I just, I, I, that's not, that's not the way it works really. So I'm never gonna use this 11 seven or anything, or 11 nine even in practice. And the only time for me to use it is in the meeting. And I'm never gonna be using that big of a poll unless it's something like six 20 that's up there and it's like, right. I don't have any time to waste really. And like, it's almost nice that the bar is like getting up there that high because I need such a good jump anyway, that it has to be like a, a full commit and it's gotta be, you know, it's gotta be a, well, yeah, it's just, I mean, it's gotta be a well put together jump. Of course. And so you almost like, I'm just so focused on like, trying to hit a good run and then like, feeling everything else out to where it's like, I dunno, it doesn't really, I don't, I don't really think about it that much.

Jake Winder (00:52:18):

I feel like this is a really good ad for ucs

Mondo Duplantis (00:52:23):

Reliability.

Jake Winder (00:52:25):

Well, because like, even, even your different sets, like, so they're pretty accurate.

Mondo Duplantis (00:52:33):

I, yeah, I haven't had a problem with it at all, really.

Jake Winder (00:52:37):

It's just, just the same.

Mondo Duplantis (00:52:39):

Yeah. I mean, I just, yeah, I get, I get like, and I mean, they have the machine that they're gonna, they're gonna measure the stiffness of it, you know what I mean? So it's like you kind of have to believe that's gonna be accurate. And I get everything made on the same manual. Not every pole, but the poles that are the same. They're on the same man and have someone on a zero, someone on a double zero on and stuff like that. But you know, it's on the same angel, so it's gonna be the same, it's gonna be the same thickness and it's gonna feel the same in my hand. It's just gonna kind of look a little bit more shiny. But other than that, I mean, they, they, they measured it and they, they measured the, the stiffness and what the flex number should be. So there's really no reason for me not to trust it.

Jake Winder (00:53:21):

Ucs spirit vaulting polls are legendary. In the Mondo episode, he talks about how he has three sets of spirits, all right. And he said that they're all the same, like that, they just all feel the same three different sets of the same poles. They feel the same. I don't know about you, but whenever I was younger and vaulting, I used to kind of wonder the first time I've been to Pole, if it was going to twist, if it was really the same flex number, or was it gonna be stiffer or was it gonna be softer? It was very, very unnerving. And spirit is just super consistent. They make a very durable pole a very consistent pole that you can count on and rely on, you know, year after year. And with, you know, they're vaulting, the vaulters that vault on them. It just kind of like sells itself.

Jake Winder (00:54:18):

It speaks for itself. They have an insane number of world records that have been set on spirit vaulting poles, including Mondo's world record of 6 21 and Yelaina is in BA's world record of 5 0 6. So, I mean, they're just legends in the game. So if you would like to purchase spirit vaulting poles, rise pole vault sells spirit vaulting poles, and we can help you out with that. If you want to email into support rise pull vault.com, we can get you set up with a new consistent series of poles that are the same poles that Mondo jumps on. So yeah. Hit us up. Right, right. Yeah. That's wild. That's good for you. That's, that's not a lot of people can, can do. That can be cool with, you know, doing that and, and just sending it first go. What, what's the space between your poles at like, once you're at the top end of your range?

Mondo Duplantis (00:55:21):

It's, it's pretty, it's pretty small.

Jake Winder (00:55:23):

It's like two

Mondo Duplantis (00:55:24):

Or 0.2

Jake Winder (00:55:26):

0.2. Yeah.

Mondo Duplantis (00:55:26):

Yeah. I, I, I think that I, I messed up a little bit. Like, I, I think we went, I mean, it just, it's tough because like as the years go on, it changes so much because I get on, if I get on, I'm using bigger poles and, or if I'm heavier, like whatever it may be. But I, I started off doing point twos, I guess from like my like 12, nine poll and then going down. So then it's like, there's too many, there was too many poles in my back. So now I have like, sometimes have some, some little bit of like, funny, funny gaps in between. But when it gets down to those numbers, it's I do have a 12 1 11 9 11 7. And those three, that should be goal that I'm in and on in the meet, almost, almost a hundred percent to where like, just depending on the right, how the day is, how I feel, and you know, what kind of place it's to jump out the weather and everything.

Jake Winder (00:56:18):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Why'd you go for the front flip? You're a front flip guy?

Mondo Duplantis (00:56:26):

No, <laugh> dude, I'm not a front flip guy. Like, when I'm telling you like, usually like, I feel like some people, like, maybe like in the back of your mind, like you kind of have an idea of what you want do, like after, if you make something like, yeah, if I hate that, maybe I'll hit like this kind. That was one of these moments where like, I genuinely had no idea what I was gonna do because it was like, it was nothing really. Like, I dunno, I didn't wanna really plan anything. I was just like, I'm just gonna let me make the bar first. You know what I mean? It's not like a certain that I'm gonna make this part 6 21, you know, it's I that I jumped. It's like, let me just like make, and then we'll just see what happens. And then, I dunno, I just made it and I was running off the pit and like, I was just, I think I, I think I just had so much excitement. I just had to like, let it out somehow. And like, I think the way that I was like bouncing around, it just like made sense. It just like kind of happened, but like, it was a hundred percent not a plant thing. It was not what I was like,

Jake Winder (00:57:20):

Just like,

Mondo Duplantis (00:57:21):

Right. Happened

Jake Winder (00:57:22):

<Laugh>. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but you've done a front flip before.

Mondo Duplantis (00:57:27):

Yeah, I guess probably years ago though. I mean, I cannot remember the last time I've done a front flip. No.

Jake Winder (00:57:33):

<Laugh>, my god,

Mondo Duplantis (00:57:35):

I don't, just crazy. It's not a thing that I do. No, I don't just like go around doing front flips. Like I, I bet it's been four years since I've done a front flip. I don't even, I really can't even think of a ton. I've done a front one, honestly.

Jake Winder (00:57:47):

Dude, that is crazy. So it was just pure hype that just, yeah, you got off the ground and then started rotating forward <laugh>, and then you just went the rest of the way.

Mondo Duplantis (00:57:59):

Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm glad that ended up sticking it cuz that would be like a, a very bummer way to end like a, a really cool thing to just like bust my on a front foot. So I'm glad they ended up working out and ended up like committing to it fully

Jake Winder (00:58:13):

<Laugh>, dude two never been Duns yeah, world record, followed by a front celebration, man. I know.

Mondo Duplantis (00:58:22):

It's crazy. I know. It's funny. And it's funny how those kind of things work too, because like, I just jumped 6 21 jumped world record add to world chiming chip, and I probably talked about the front flip just as much as I talked about like the world record at the world chiming chip, like just like a silly little stupid thing after world record. That's what it so many people were interested in. But you know, it was

Jake Winder (00:58:44):

Never, you never see, see it, you never see it, man. I don't know. I was trying to, I was like, dude, have I ever seen like an athlete, like a professional athlete do a front flip? Like maybe like somebody front flipping into the end zone or

Mondo Duplantis (00:58:55):

Something. It was Antonio. I was just thinking of Antonio Brown when you said that. I was like, I think Antonio Brown did a front flip into the end zone and it was actually super sick.

Jake Winder (00:59:03):

Yeah, it was gnarly, dude. I I was very impressed. Every, obviously, like you said, everybody was very impressed. You fricking nailed it, man. And, and I was like, he must have done that like a million times. Turns out it's just the height, man. That's what happens. That's a lot of energy when you make a big bar like that.

Mondo Duplantis (00:59:23):

Yeah. A adrenaline's a crazy thing. Yeah.

Jake Winder (00:59:27):

So what's going on with your meet this year? Are you hosting the meet again this year or no?

Mondo Duplantis (00:59:34):

Yeah, I am. Yeah. I have my I have my meet this year February 3rd I think is the, is the date that it's supposed to go off and yeah, it'll be in, oops, Sweden again trying to it won't happen this year. It's coming up too quick. But yeah, hopefully that's not the only location we'll be able to do it at. And it probably the second, the second one will probably also, I would imagine be in Sweden also, but yeah, trying to, trying to have more than just one meet. That's the plan right now. But the, as far as this one, then we have a pretty good like, stable like setup right now. We have like, you know, all the sponsors and everything. Last year were, were very fired up and excited and there's just only more coming in. So it's like, yeah. Yeah. We were in a good spot.

Jake Winder (01:00:18):

Yeah, I could imagine you guys did a good job promoting it and all of the, you know, the social media around it and stuff like that was really, really good and solid. It looked like, it looked like the pole vault meet that everyone wants to be at, and I'm sure that's what your sponsors and everything <laugh> everybody wanted to see.

Mondo Duplantis (01:00:41):

So. Yeah. yeah, no, no, it was, it was really good. It was really good. And you know, we we're trying to figure out a way to get as much people into the you know, the arena as we can in Sala, but I think like this year maybe we'll be able to have like 3000. Last year I don't think it was quite that much. I think it was more like 24, 2500. So we're trying to add a little bit more than last year, but like, they're so close. Everybody was so close to where it kind of feels like more than just 3000 to

Jake Winder (01:01:09):

Honestly Oh, in, yeah, like in a track stadium like that, like, like an indoor spotlight that I'm sure it feels like crazy.

Mondo Duplantis (01:01:16):

It felt, it felt really good. And to add, if we can add like, you know, a 500, maybe, hopefully a thousand more than last year than I think it'll be really bumping in. I don't think we have a problem. So think it, we sold out like easily within the first day last year, so,

Jake Winder (01:01:29):

Dude, that's so cool, man. Yeah. So how much, how much work goes into that? Like for you personally, like are you just kinda like, like it's they're using your name or are you planning stuff

Mondo Duplantis (01:01:42):

More like that? Honestly, like, I would say like, I, I wouldn't say I'm super big on the organizing of everything. They got a, they got a nice team around me and, and at the club. Cause it's, it's also the club that I can that that is one that is technically hosting, hosting a competition. So they, they got a nice group of people that are working on that more just like me. It's like when I have special requests or like things that I, I wanna make sure that are at the meet and like certain type of vibes and stuff like that. And, you know, whoever, whoever I, whoever I want to jump at the meet also.

Jake Winder (01:02:19):

Right. Yeah. That's that's really, it looked really, really sick, man. So how is it, like, how, like from like, let's say like 20, well I guess you have to go back kind of far, I guess like 20 17, 20 18 to now, like what is your day to day like, what's different about your day to day now than it was maybe that like first year after LSU or something

Mondo Duplantis (01:02:46):

From 27? Oh, from first year. Oh shoot.

Jake Winder (01:02:49):

<Laugh>. Well, like, like,

Mondo Duplantis (01:02:51):

Yeah.

Jake Winder (01:02:52):

From, from like, when you left LSU and you started pursuing this pole vaulting career, like what is different like from that to like where you're at now, like walking down the street, going to restaurants, you know, like doing stuff like that. Like what's different in your day to day? Yeah,

Mondo Duplantis (01:03:12):

I mean, yeah, of course like those, those kind of things are gonna be very different and like, you know, just like having it like be being a professional and like having it as your career is also quite different because it's only like a real selectively experience it at the level that I'm experiencing it at. And you know, whether it's like with, with sponsorships of course, which I I would say like isn't the most work honestly because none of that stuff goes through me anyway. It's more just me like having to make decisions, whether I just wanna say yes or no. If I think it's, if I think it's worth it. If I think it's something that's, you know, that's not too like off brand for me to do mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, I think some that like would be like, would make sense for me to do. I don't think the sponsorship stuff is the hardest. The, the events and stuff is, is is a little bit strange a little bit, especially like in Sweden, since I get invited to do a lot, a lot of things Sweden, you know, you gotta be like formal,

Jake Winder (01:04:12):

You gotta be, what do you mean? Yeah, what do you mean events? Like, like what, what type of events?

Mondo Duplantis (01:04:18):

First of, I mean, over the past few years quite a bit of awards first off, but also also like events and like, like sponsors and stuff like that, that that's also, they have a lot of events and like, it's very important to like to show up to those kinda things and like show face and you know, be, be there. But but also, and I mean stuff just like whether you you're getting like honored with something or if it's an, if it's an award, if it's something that just kind of good for you to show up for, that's just kind of like important in like the culture and society. Like, especially like in, in Sweden and you know, whether it's like, you know, prince stuff or like, you know, it's like stuff like, like that, like one family stuff, but in Sweden. But yeah, so like that, that kind of stuff is a little bit strange because you don't really like, expect it or you don't really think about it going into jumping and, and like picking what competitions you wanna jump at too to where like, it's not, you know, there's, there's more factors to weigh in than just like, than, you know, it's like, it, its kind like a, a business at the end of the day.

Mondo Duplantis (01:05:25):

Also, you wanna pick the right meets to build up to the championship meets, but then also, you know, there's, there is money that that is involved and there's decisions that I have to make. But that of course that that weighs into the, that there's a, I mean, a big factor of like, which means I'm gonna go to. So,

Jake Winder (01:05:42):

So has it become more like and I don't think it's a bad thing. Like some people like call, like would say this is like a negative thing, but it's not like, has it become more business centered kind of than it used to be?

Mondo Duplantis (01:06:00):

Yeah.

Jake Winder (01:06:00):

I mean, not business centered, but business like, like yeah. It's not just flinging over a bar anymore. Like it's, there's probably just a lot more business stuff that goes into it now.

Mondo Duplantis (01:06:13):

Yeah. There is, there, there, there, there definitely is. There definitely is. And yeah, that's, I I would say for the most part it's, it's, it's quite a good thing. Like it is mostly like a, a situation where, you know, it's, it's better to have have that than to not have that.

Jake Winder (01:06:36):

Yeah,

Mondo Duplantis (01:06:36):

For sure. No, it's, that is a tough thing. And I think I am fortunate enough, especially like when it comes to like, competitions to where, you know, you, you get these offers to do so many competitions and there, there's so many competitions that I could do and you know, a lot of people want me to go to their meets now because I've been jumping so well, but then like, you know, you really have to like wind it down because like, you don't wanna, you don't wanna over jump, you don't wanna just go like chase stuff and I wanna have a good, a good schedule meet so I can jump, I can still jump, you know, high on all of 'em, be at a good level. But you know, it's, yeah, it's, it's tough because then you feel like if you, if you don't go to some of 'em, you might be missing out on something, you know, if they're, if they're willing to pay well or whatever it may be.

Mondo Duplantis (01:07:21):

But you know, I I, I have a, I have a good team around me and especially my parents. Cause you know, they always think that, you know, the polo team should always come first and, you know, winning, jumping high, winning the championship meets, that's the most important thing. And everything else around it doesn't come with that if you don't, if you can't perform well. So try to, I still like, try to focus more on just like the performance and, and jumping high at like, at all my meets rather than jumping at too many meets or, or even, or kind of the same goes with like sponsors rather than having like really good ones and really quality ones rather than just having over overly too much.

Jake Winder (01:08:02):

Have you had a time where that side of things has distanced you a little too much? Where you had to like reel yourself in from like distancing you from pole vaulting?

Mondo Duplantis (01:08:23):

I dunno. Like, I feel like I'm okay with it for the, for I feel like I'm okay and I mean it can, I don't know. No, I think for the most part I'm, it's, it's been fine and I, and I have like a good team around me and, you know, things don't, they don't go directly through me for the most part. So like there's, you know, I I I have a good team that, you know, organizes the, the stuff for me and presents us up to where like, they mostly would just present the stuff that they think is important and, you know, things that, you know, it is worth having a discussion about. And you know, like, like I said, I, I for, I put pole vault team first before everything, and I'm not gonna do stuff that's gonna mess up any of my competitions or try to over, over compete in, in those ways. So no, I, I mean, yeah, I mean, like sometimes it feels like I, I don't, some, sometimes I, like mentally it feels like it could be too much. But as far as like physically, I don't think that it's, it's, I think that it's been Okay.

Jake Winder (01:09:35):

Is there anything you do specifically to stay balanced in, in that, those areas? Cause I, I think that it would just be, I, the reason I'm asking you these questions is just because I think it's very fascinating to me the life of a, of an athlete that is at your level because they're like, it really is not just, you know, just pole vaulting and having a good time and doing whatever you want to do all the time anymore. Yeah. You know, like, is there, is there a way that you maintain balance, whether it be like, I don't know, meditation or, or, you know, just always trying to ground yourself, you know, you had mentioned family earlier and friends earlier.

Mondo Duplantis (01:10:20):

Yeah. It's, it's, yeah, I mean, I think it's like, yeah, like I think the connection with my family and, and Desiree helps quite a bit, I would say. And yeah, just hold up.

Jake Winder (01:10:38):

No, yeah, you're good. I can hear you.

Mondo Duplantis (01:10:40):

Okay. You but yeah, like I, I, I mean I have a really, you know, good relationship with my family and Desiree and her family too. So like, when I'm in Sweden, we're hanging out with them all the time and just being able to like, kind of, whenever I need to distance myself, not only from like the business and professional side of pole vault, but just pole vaulting in general because you know, I am not always with people that are pole vaulters and, and and whatnot. So it's not always about pub vault and you know, I, I still play as much golf as I can, so that's always a good way to just kind of get away from, from everything too.

Jake Winder (01:11:15):

Yeah. Heck yeah. How much has Desiree helped with kind of that balance quite a bit?

Mondo Duplantis (01:11:22):

Yeah, I would say quite a bit. Quite a bit. Especially like situations like being at the world championships and she, she flew from Sweden to, to Eugene and met me and we stayed together and you know, that, that makes you just feel like such a, a normal meat in that way too. Like I was talking about earlier to where its like, it just felt like I was going into almost was like, of course it's more important, but just kinda like a, in a way it just a meat and cause just, just being with her, we're just trying to like figure out what to eat for breakfast, what to eat for <laugh>. I got, I gotta go to the track and, you know, you know how that can be, especially with Deez and I, that that can be a big discussion, you know, the eating situation. So <laugh> <laugh>, <laugh>, <laugh>. So

Jake Winder (01:12:06):

That's good man. That's, that's good. It's important to have. And the other thing I was thinking about the other day is that, you know, a lot of professional pole vaulters or pole vaulters that pursue pole vaulting after college a lot of them put off their personal lives until they're done. And I think there's a lot of reasons for that. You know, like maybe they don't get involved with somebody while they're pole vaulting because there's a lot of travel and this and that and the other. And you've kind of taken a, a different approach to that. Yeah, I know financially it and where you're at, you know, it helps because you can, can bring her to different things. But yeah, I was thinking the other day how cool that is that like a lot of pole vaulters that go through and do the European circuit and everything, like they later on in life have to explain to, you know, a significant other, how cool it was back then and what they used to do back then. Like, man, I used to travel to this meet this meet and this meet and like she's there with you on all of those that's really unique and really cool.

Mondo Duplantis (01:13:19):

Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. It is, it is. And yeah, and I mean, and, and that's like another thing where I really like, I just like, you know, even if, even if things like can be a little bit hectic at times, like I, overall I can't complain at all of like the, the situation I'm in. I mean, I get, I have such like really like luxuries that I, that I'm able to live and like, especially like you know, if if Desiree ever has time and you know, she wants to go to any meets, then of course like to bring her to, to any meet she wants to, right? And I can, I can do that. And that's just like, it's such a better experience than just having to explain to her what, what happened at the meet or where I was in like, you know, this part of Port Poland or, you know, United States, whatever it may be.

Mondo Duplantis (01:14:01):

So that's a, that's a really cool thing cuz you know, not everybody can really do that. Sometimes you just gotta go in there and if you wanna be a pole vault and you wanna try to make it live, not, and you just wanna pull vault, sometimes you have to go and you just have to grind and you have to go to these places. You don't really, you don't really have the, you don't really have the like, the support to be able to, you know, carry people along with you. It's kind of just like up to you and you gotta figure it out on your own. So you know, luckily like I, I don't really have to, don't have to deal with that. So like, yeah,

Jake Winder (01:14:35):

That's what's up man. All right. I wanna respect your time. You're a busy man. I got a couple more questions though. What do you think is your biggest obstacle going into this year? What's the thing that you're like, I could get better at, I could do, I could do better this year?

Mondo Duplantis (01:14:55):

I don't think I have like, crazy obstacles like in that way. Like, I have to like, really change anything up so well, like, so much or like, something that I'm like trying to really avoid necessarily. But for me, I, I was put in a real strong focus last year on my run and trying to maximize my speed, you know, through the takeoff in those last 10 meters of the run. And that, that was like basically my main focus and trying to like see how much, like how much speed can I control into the takeoff and like, you know, how much and like how aggressive can I be really at the end of the run. So I think I'm gonna try to like keep building upon that. Cuz I felt like last year I was starting the, I mean, I was definitely running faster and I was hitting the box harder than I've ever, than ever have.

Mondo Duplantis (01:15:43):

And you can kind of show just not only by the heights, but like the, the poles that I were on, the poles that I were on and the way that it was moving. And so keep trying to build upon that and that's gonna be like a, a main focus of the year. And yeah. Other, other than that, like kinda also like what we talked about, not only like physically, but just like as far as my, my schedule, I, I had a really, I, I actually had a really crazy schedule last year as far as like travel and stuff like that going from the Eugene Diamond League meet back to Sweden, back to United States, world champs, went to Doha, back to United States, like crazy, like had a pretty crazy travel schedule. So that's, it's gonna always be like that, of course, like the travel and stuff like that. But trying my trying my best to like have the schedule work with the vault schedule and the competition schedule to where I can have sufficient rest and recovery in between the meets. So yeah, mainly, mainly that. And try to just keep keep the, keep the feeling of like knowing why you got into the sport. You know, keep that, keep that love that I, that I, that I still very much have and like try to keep it about Pu vault team.

Jake Winder (01:16:58):

Right. That's awesome man. You don't have to share this if you don't want to, but do you have any speed metrics? I get people ask all the time, has Mondo like ask him about speed? Like what, what's his meters per second on the runway? Cuz people go back and forth with it all the time. You don't have to share if you don't wanna.

Mondo Duplantis (01:17:18):

That's fine. I I hit I know last year at indoor competition I was, I was hitting like 10.1 meters per second at the end of the run. And that was like, that was, you know, that, that was a big emphasis of, of what I was trying to do last year. And I think that, you know, the meet that they did, they did measure the speed. I was like, and this was just like a normal flat runway too, was indoors. So it was like, I was consistently pretty much every jump over 10 meters per second. And that's, that's something that I, that I wanted to do and that I was, that I was trying to do and I was running Willy really well. And, you know, I think a lot of that is like, you know, the, the amount of emphasis I put on speed training, sprint training and you know, I used to do a lot of SL run.

Mondo Duplantis (01:18:06):

I mean the, a lot of pole run stuff like that. So like running with the pole has become so natural to me also to where like I can run trying to be able to like the transition from normal sprinting to running with the pole. Like try to make that as seamless as possible too. So yeah, I was running really well last year. I think a 30 30 meter fly, like 2, 2 85 was the, that I, geez man, I ran that few times. So that was, that was, that was right before we championship time, so that was probably like when I was like the better of the better of shapes too.

Jake Winder (01:18:44):

Yeah. As I say, you got some cookies, man, you got it going on <laugh>, that's pretty fast. And that's like not a small pole you're carrying either, you know what I'm saying? So like <laugh>, no, it's s that's what's pretty impressive about it too. It's not a small pole. All right. Last question before we get off here, how's the golf game

Mondo Duplantis (01:19:03):

<Laugh>? Up and down, like normal <laugh>

Jake Winder (01:19:08):

Unintended,

Mondo Duplantis (01:19:09):

It's, it's okay. Like, I mean, it depends on the day really, honestly. Like the other, a few weeks ago I, I, I really found my drive mm-hmm. And I was starting to hit the, hit my drive really well. And like, it felt like golf was so much easier when I was like actually in the fairway rather than having to just scramble the whole time and just like trying to like save par, save Bowies the whole time. So like, I mean, yeah, like mid low eighties, so like good, good enough to where like, I'm, yeah. Okay.

Jake Winder (01:19:42):

That's what's up. So what are you hitting off off the tee box? Are you fading? Hitting a fade? Hitting a draw? Just hitting the fairway if you, however you can. Yeah.

Mondo Duplantis (01:19:53):

<Laugh>. Yeah. That kind of depends on like the period of time you ask me, but for the most part, I'm hitting a fade. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative> fade off the t. Gotcha. Yeah, it's kinda strange cuz I, I'm the natural, like the, yeah. The natural shape of my shot off thet would be more of a fade. And then when it comes to my irons, they draw

Jake Winder (01:20:13):

Really?

Mondo Duplantis (01:20:14):

That would be the natural shape. Yeah. Oh wow. That's the natural. And I don't really know why that is, but that's kinda, that's just kind the way it is not like my my wedges or anything. My wedges don't really do much. Yeah, right. Pretty much. Right. But like when I'm, when it's like seven I or then above, then they're, I'm gonna have to usually take account a little draw unless I try like my hardest to like, you know, like soften my grip, loosen it up, like open the face up a little bit or something like that. Like try to make sure it doesn't draw. But if I just like do a normal stock swing, it's gonna probably draw a little bit.

Jake Winder (01:20:45):

What's your favorite club in your bag to hit right now?

Mondo Duplantis (01:20:50):

Right now I probably my, my lo we, like I've had like

Jake Winder (01:20:58):

Lately was it

Mondo Duplantis (01:20:59):

60, 58? Yeah, like a 60. It's a 60 60 and like, just being like being like 60 yards out and it's like this shot where it's like, it's not a full swing, it's just like a really feely handsy swing. Right. And you know, when I'm able like clip it just Right. And you're able to just kinda get that thought. It just like bounce hop and stop.

Jake Winder (01:21:18):

Oh

Mondo Duplantis (01:21:18):

Yeah. And you're, and you're able to like, it's just, it's probably the best feeling shot out theres, cuz you can see the ball the whole way and you can just see it the way, like it just stops on the green when it just checks up like that. Right. That just, yeah. And I, and I've, I've been hitting those pretty well lately, honestly. So yeah,

Jake Winder (01:21:33):

That's what, what clubs are you hitting? Like what that cobras do you have? Cobra?

Mondo Duplantis (01:21:37):

It's, yeah, the Cobra, the whole set is Cobra. Puma Puma owns Cobra.

Jake Winder (01:21:42):

Oh, do they? I didn't know

Mondo Duplantis (01:21:43):

That. Yeah, so like,

Jake Winder (01:21:45):

Hey. Yeah, there we go. Kind

Mondo Duplantis (01:21:47):

Man. Yeah. Yeah. So it works. I mean I like get big clubs and stuff like that, but yes, I kinda have to use that.

Jake Winder (01:21:53):

What's the coolest course you've ever played? And then after that, what's your favorite course to play?

Mondo Duplantis (01:22:02):

I think the coolest course I played is it's called Bro in Stockholm, Sweden.

Jake Winder (01:22:07):

Oh really? Okay. Yeah.

Mondo Duplantis (01:22:09):

Not familiar. I would say that's probably the, honestly, actually no, I don't, I don't think. Okay. It's two places it would be there bur it's one of the prettier ones. It's probably the best course and nicest course in Sweden. And then I played the, the Grove in Jupiter, Florida. It's Michael Jordan's course.

Jake Winder (01:22:28):

Oh, wow. Yeah,

Mondo Duplantis (01:22:30):

It's

Jake Winder (01:22:30):

Like, I've never seen it, but I've heard of it,

Mondo Duplantis (01:22:32):

But it's seen it, it's like this super, I think it's like super exclusive. Like they have like, you know, only like 80 members type of stuff.

Jake Winder (01:22:39):

Yeah. Don't you have to be like invited to play there?

Mondo Duplantis (01:22:42):

Yeah. Yeah. Well I played with

Jake Winder (01:22:43):

How that,

Mondo Duplantis (01:22:45):

I played with Ricky Fowler.

Jake Winder (01:22:47):

Oh.

Mondo Duplantis (01:22:47):

And so that, that was, yeah, like if, you know, without him like there's no really possibility, like no way to play. And so that was a super cool course and it was like a course that MJ built like specifically to like all of his strengths

Jake Winder (01:23:02):

Really.

Mondo Duplantis (01:23:03):

And he built like, like yeah, like all the fairway bunkers and stuff like that. Like he built everything to where like he knows that he's gonna be safe with like, the way that hes the ball. So like, he built like a course like based on his strengths, which is like, yeah. Super like, cool thing to do. Like he just at that level where he could just like build a course to like,

Jake Winder (01:23:22):

That's wild. How is the playing with Rick collar?

Mondo Duplantis (01:23:26):

Pretty sick. Pretty cool. I've had the opportunity to play with a few pros and like even, I mean I think the crazy thing about like Ricky especially is like seeing the way that he plays and like how good he is, how accurate he is. Just like, seems like he never miss hits anything. Everything just seems so flush and so pure and like he's the guy that's like, you know, he's, he, he's struggling a little bit like on tour right now. Yeah. Like to even think that there's guys that are even better than him. Like it's hard to believe cuz of how good he was. Cause like, you know, like he's like, he's the kind of guy that like if he was off the green by like five, 10 yards, like he's not even gonna bring, he almost wouldn't even bring a putter in his hand cause he knows he's gonna chip it so close that he can just finish that like little three footer off or whatever. Like with his wedge, he can just do that and like, he doesn't like, he just like, it's just like those little things that like, and like a few of these shots where he is just like, yeah, I'm never gonna have that in my bag and that's never gonna be in my arsenal kinda thing. And you don't really realize that. Like, you just like say like you watch him and like you see 'em play like in person like Yeah. That's different level <laugh>.

Jake Winder (01:24:35):

Yeah. That would be fascinating. I would love to that's like the only sport that I watch on TV is golf. Me too. I don't watch it as much anymore. But anyway. Do you see that some that's being something possibly you might pursue maybe after you pull vault your career? Like more, maybe not like pga, but just like trying to get like no tournaments or anything?

Mondo Duplantis (01:24:55):

Oh, I would like to play tournament. I would like to play competitive golf. I, I played I played in like a pro am but that was like, it was like a, a best ball like scramble ball thing too though. So like, it didn't really, wasn't really competitive in that way, but I would like to play like competitive golf, like a tournament, like get into that mindset. But no I think that's another thing. Like you play with somebody like Ricky and you see that kind of level and like how like easy things are and like when they can kind of get on autopilot mode like that, it's like it's way too late for me to ever be able to be able to do like, as something like the way that they're playing and like, I'm, I'm never gonna be able to like be at that level. My putting and stuff is just like two.

Jake Winder (01:25:37):

Yeah, no, I, I understand that.

Mondo Duplantis (01:25:39):

And, and I, I mean, yeah, and then like when I, I hope that I can jump long enough to where like I wouldn't have time to play that much golf, you know what I mean? Like I would, I would like to jump to like 32 Olympics. That would be, that's like the

Jake Winder (01:25:52):

How old would you be then?

Mondo Duplantis (01:25:54):

I would be 32. Turning 33.

Jake Winder (01:25:56):

That's a great age. Right. I think that would be, that's

Mondo Duplantis (01:25:59):

A good age. Yeah.

Jake Winder (01:26:00):

I think that would be awesome. That's, that's a long, that's a lot of that's a lot of one centimeter world records between <laugh>.

Mondo Duplantis (01:26:11):

I hope so.

Jake Winder (01:26:12):

To jump like 21 though, man you're, if you're doing it with a centimeter at a time, you're gonna need some years to do that man. Right?

Mondo Duplantis (01:26:19):

Yeah, true, true. Yeah. And if, and if I wanna you know, if I wanna get to six 30, which I, which I do wanna to, yeah. You know, if I'm gonna go a cent of time, which, which I mean, I don't know. I guess, I guess I'll do that. We'll see. Maybe, maybe like I won't jump at like there's some numbers that probably are pretty lame. Like maybe like 29, probably like skip like 6 29 if I get to that point. Yeah. Like cuz I feel like you want to kind of get to that new like whatever, it's not decade, like whatever the 10 number

Mondo Duplantis (01:26:49):

30, I dunno. Whatever it's I

Jake Winder (01:26:51):

Know what you're talking about

Mondo Duplantis (01:26:52):

Though. Yeah. You know what, I'm, you get what I'm talking about though. I wouldn't mess with nine, but other than that maybe I go time I don't, I don't really know what's gonna happen.

Jake Winder (01:26:59):

Well that's interesting. Yeah. I just assumed. Yeah, I last thing before we get off here. Challenge is still out there. You know what it is coming at six meters,

Mondo Duplantis (01:27:11):

Six meters

Jake Winder (01:27:12):

Still out there. We talked about it last year. We'll see. I know. We'll just say we'll see. Just gimme a we'll we'll

Mondo Duplantis (01:27:20):

See, we'll see, we'll see. I know. And yeah

Jake Winder (01:27:24):

Dude, just put it at six six, six oh five, six ten six fifteen. The crowd gets to see all, all of that. Right.

Mondo Duplantis (01:27:31):

Yeah, no, that, that, that's maybe a solution that's probably a solution to it because like I think that was what I probably said last time was that I don't wanna like come in at six and I don't get to jump as much. Right.

Jake Winder (01:27:42):

People are paying

Mondo Duplantis (01:27:43):

People Yeah. People that went there to see me jump, you know, they, they wanna see me jump so I would like to jump in front of them, but yeah, may, maybe I can go lot of increments like that. That could, that could possibly work.

Jake Winder (01:27:54):

Yeah. Oh dude, I just thought about it too. Most times over six meters in one competition too. That would, that would conquer both of those, right? It would. Cause if you, if you did like, it would be like 6, 6 0 5, 6 10, 6 15 and then maybe six 20

Mondo Duplantis (01:28:13):

I think I already, yeah. And I many times

Jake Winder (01:28:16):

How many times? Well yeah, yeah, but

Mondo Duplantis (01:28:19):

Three is

Jake Winder (01:28:20):

Three is the record,

Mondo Duplantis (01:28:21):

I guess. Well you I did, I did three of championships cause I did I jumped the 6, 6 0 6 or was it 6 0 1, but but whatever the 6, 6 0 6 and then 6 21. So I think it's three. I guess. I dunno,

Jake Winder (01:28:37):

You could probably break all those in one in one meet. Highest opening bar.

Mondo Duplantis (01:28:43):

I mean especially if I just wanted to like mess around with it. Just go like, go up like yeah, two centimeters I could probably like just

Jake Winder (01:28:50):

Insane

Mondo Duplantis (01:28:51):

Jump it like 10 times, <laugh>

Jake Winder (01:28:53):

10 in a row, maybe <laugh>

Mondo Duplantis (01:28:55):

I to say have say two months off. I'm be so beat up

Jake Winder (01:28:58):

<Laugh>. Right, dude, let's get off here. I really appreciate it. You're the man and just good luck to you for the rest of your season and you and your family and you guys are just doing incredible, incredible things and yeah, good luck man. Thanks again for taking the time because this, everybody who's listening, this man does not have to do this. He's just doing it so that people out there can, you know, enjoy some, some podcast material with the best pole vault in history. So.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):

Yeah. Yeah.

Mondo Duplantis (01:29:30):

Thanks. Appreciate it. Yeah, it was a, it was my pleasure. Yeah.

Jake Winder (01:29:32):

Truly. Absolutely. All right, just the one more jump podcast. Thanks guys.